Tuesday, March 17, 2009

Architects Should Make Ceiling Levels

In talking with the growing MEP group of users it seems apparent that architects should make ceiling levels. This would help in the following ways...

Copy/Monitor would be able to bring the ceiling heights directly into Revit MEP saving hours.

Walls can be drawn to the ceiling height without user math.

Ceilings heights can be adjusted in fewer clicks by just adjusting the Level.

Feel free to comment...


Kevin said...

This is good advice, I completely agree. To go one step farther, each discipline should use a unique identifier (ie. a prefix) to their level names to facilitate view filters to remove or grey unnecessary levels.

We get a ton of levels that tend to get bunched together:
-top of partitions (ceiling +150mm)
-top of steel high point (underside of deck)
-top of steel low point (underside of deck)
-finished floor

We use view filters to, well filter out the levels that may not be needed.

Laura Handler said...

Part of me agrees with this - I will definitely discuss the idea of this with my team, to at least propose on projects where it makes sense.

But the other part of me is concerned about creating so many levels. I agree with the concept of filters that Kevin mentioned, but we have projects that have 7 different ceiling heights associated with one building floor.

Bill said...

As an architect I completely disagree. Levels are for floor levels or occasional other major elements such as top of parapet. Utilizing levels for ceilings, tops of partitions, steel high and low points tends to clutter up views.

A better practice is to use named, pinned reference planes to show in views where those elements are to align. The name can include info identifying height.

Eric Peabody said...

Maybe I am retarded but if you host your ceilings on levels (which i have tried) the ceiling tags in the RCP do report the AFF height. They report 0'-0" since there is no offset from the level.

Josh Moore said...

yes, I think there a numerous benefits for MEP if we do this, but it can be a major problem for Architectural too, and a few of the other posts highlight this idea. There are pro's and con's is all I am saying.